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Washington D.C., Oct 28, 2016 / 09:28 am (CNA/EWTN News).- In an exclusive interview on the Eternal Word Television Network, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump appealed to Catholic voters and other voters of faith, saying that his rival Hillary Clinton will be hostile to them.

The interview, conducted by Raymond Arroyo, host of EWTN’s The World Over, aired Oct. 27, in the final days of a contentious election cycle.

During the discussion, Trump said that Clinton is ultimately responsible for recently leaked emails from one of her leading staff members calling for a “revolution” in the Catholic Church. He pledged his commitment to religious freedom and said that Clinton’s remarks towards people of faith have been “terrible,” to the point that if he were Catholic, he would stop talking to other Catholics who voted for her.

Trump also mentioned an experience in his life that he says led to a major pro-life conversion, and touched on his prayer life and favorite saints.

He addressed accusations of sexual assault against him, saying that they are not true, and reiterating his stance that his controversial recorded comments regarding women were “locker-room talk.”

The interview also talked about health care, refugees, and cleared up uncertainty on whether Trump uses the expression “bigly” or “big league.”

The full text of the interview with Raymond Arroyo is below:

 

Great! Mr. Trump, thanks for the time.

Thank you.

 

I want to start with your mother, Mary Trump, who we hear very little about; but, you said she had a flair for the dramatic. What do you see in yourself that you saw in her?

Maybe that … she was a ... she was a terrific woman — beautiful woman. She was born in Scotland, came here at 19 years of age; met my father; they got married. They were married for 63 years or something, and they had a great marriage. It was very beautiful, but she was a very, very smart woman. And she was a very religious woman, actually.

Tell me — we’re talking about women. There’s been a lot of confusion, controversy out on the trail. When I travel the country, people say, “I’d like to vote for Donald Trump, but I don’t think I can look my wife and my daughter in the eye if I did so.” They’re reacting to those Billy Bush comments and the reaction to some of these people who are accusing you across the country. What do you say to them?

Well, that never happened — those were artificial. They were made up, just like at the rallies, where they made up, you know, they brought the protesters in. They paid them. They were thugs, and they, you know, they paid them, I guess, $1,500 or something and an iPhone. That was artificial, and, actually, criminal, what they did. And nobody understood it at the time, and it was put in there by the Clinton campaign. This stuff was all made up. And so, I protested it. And, actually, witnesses have come forward, and much of it’s already been debunked, but it was all made up.

 

What do you say to those who still have lingering concerns? Have you changed since those comments were made … a decade ago?

Well, it was locker-room talk; it was locker-room talk. The microphones, I mean, to be honest, should, you know, should never have been on, but that was locker-room talk. And it’s just one of those things. I have it. I’ve said it. I’ve made my apologies, but again, just one of those things. 

 

I want to read something Newt Gingrich recently said about you. He said, “He is a transformational figure, but one that reacts very intensely, almost uncontrollably, to anything that attacks his own sense of integrity.” Do you regret some of the reactions you’ve made over this election season and perhaps the way you phrase those reactions?

Well, you know, I started with 17 people, and it was a very, very nasty primary, and they were nasty to me. You know, people think I was nasty, but they were nasty to me, and I ended up winning, you know; one in 17 — and it was actually 18, if you want to be exact. And then, I have the final now with Hillary Clinton, and I hear we’re doing very well in the polls, and we’re doing very well in Florida, which is up now. The reaction has been amazing. So we’ll have to see what happens. But, no, look — you can’t go back. You have to look forward. This was a nasty campaign, and, you know, people don’t mention, but they were nasty to me. I think, in many cases, they were nastier to me than I was to them. 

 

And, as a president, you wouldn’t react that way?

No, I don’t think so. It depends; you react a different way for different people. These were 17 people coming at me from every angle, and, you know, I hit them hard. Most of them are now endorsing me.  Some of them dishonored the pledge: They signed a pledge, and they dishonored the pledge, and they’ll have to live with that. But most of them have endorsed me. 

 

I want to get into some issues.

Okay.

 

You weren’t always pro-life, but you now are determinedly and decidedly pro-life. 

Yes, I am pro-life. 

 

You said you are going to appoint judges who are pro-life. 

Right. 

 

You’re very concerned about the late-term abortions. What was the moment that changed your thinking, your heart, on this?

Well, there are a number of moments, but one was a couple that I know very, very well — and you had a strong pro-life [person] and you had a strong pro-choice [person], and they argued over [the pregnancy]. … The mother was pregnant. They argued over the child. One, I won’t get into specifics. 

 

Sure. 

But one wanted to abort. And the other said, “We can’t do that. We’re not going to do that.” Anyway, they had the baby. It was a long time ago. And the baby is such a magnificent person, who I know, a magnificent person. And the person that was actually pro-choice is now pro-life because of it, and it had a big effect on me. But I’ve seen other examples similar to that; but I’ve seen other examples, so ... 

 

So, it was a personal change for you?

It is a personal change. And, you know, Ronald Reagan made that personal change, too. Many people have made the personal change. I mean, some make the personal change the other way, also. 

 

Right; right. 

But I made the personal change, and I’m very happy with it. 

 

Tell me about religious liberty. I know this is becoming a growing concern for you, particularly for so many faith-based voters and people who are in nonprofits …

Right. 

 

Religious-service people.

Right. 

 

Whether it’s the Little Sisters of the Poor or, you know, these private businesses who are religiously motivated, they feel this Obamacare mandate, which demands contraceptive and abortifacient services, as part of insurance …

Right.

 

 … is intrusive.

Right. 

 

What would you do as president?

Well, let me tell you: Religious Liberty itself, taken in the biggest picture, is in tremendous trouble. Okay? I mean, religious liberty in this country is in tremendous trouble. 

 

You mean expression of religion?

I’m talking expression, and I’m talking anything else you want to talk about. People that are faith-based are not having, you know, they’re just not having, they’re not being accepted. It’s almost like they’re not being accepted in our country anymore. Obama has been a disaster, in terms of religious liberty. And, one of the things I’m very proud of: I was with pastors, ministers, priests, rabbis, on numerous occasions, large numbers; and at the first meeting, I could see I had tremendous support like, beyond. ...  And I said, “When are you going to endorse me?” And they said, “We can’t do that.” And I said, “Why can’t you do that?” They said, “We’re not allowed to do that. If we did that, we’d lose our tax-exempt status.” 

 

Right. 

And I said, “Why is that?” And they told me about the Johnson Amendment, 1954. And I thought about it for a month. And we had a meeting again — 56 different pastors, ministers, etc., and I said, “We’re going to get rid of the Johnson Amendment because our pastors and ministers should have the right to go out and speak their minds.” These are the people we respect, and they’re actually precluded from speaking their mind. If they speak their mind, their whole tax-exempt status can be taken away. 

 

Pulled out from under them, yeah.

So we’re getting rid … and I think it’s one of the most important things that I’ll be doing for the evangelicals and for religion. So, I think it’s very, very important. So, we’re going to get rid of the Johnson Amendment. 

 

And what about Obamacare? The administration admitted these premiums are going to go up 25% on average, could be 50% in some markets. 

Right. Right.

 

Given that and this religious objection to the Obamacare mandate, what are you going to do as president?

Obamacare is killing our country. It’s killing our jobs. It’s a disaster. I’ve been saying it for a long time.  I’ve been talking about it for a long time, before it was even approved. 

 

What do you replace it with?

Whether it’s health care savings accounts — by the way, there are many things, but health care savings accounts are phenomenal. You have to break up the lines between the states so that we have competition. Once you create competition, those numbers will go so low, but you have to repeal and replace Obamacare. It’s a disaster. And the number of 25%: Washington came out? 

 

Yeah. 

Say, I’m sorry to say your numbers [have] gone up 25%. It’s wrong. It’s going up 50%, 60%, 70%, and next year it’s going to go up again. It’s going to get worse. And Hillary Clinton wants to keep Obamacare going. And people are going to be paying hundreds; I mean, when you really look at it, they’ll be paying 150%. It doesn’t work. It’s no good on its face. It doesn’t work. Never would have worked, should have never been approved. It was approved by a lie. I mean, let’s face it. 

 

You mentioned Hillary Clinton. She is saying [about] your unwillingness to accept the election results, which happened at the last debate — she says, “This poses a direct threat to our democracy.” Does it?

Well, you know, who had said the same thing, and I won the last debate; according to everybody, I won it easily. But, you know, who really said it pretty well was Obama: When he was running in his first election, they asked him the same question. And he talked about rigged elections and rigged everything else. Our system is rigged. 

 

What do you mean when you say that, specifically?

Whether it’s through the media …

 

Not the electoral process?

Well, you know, Obama said it was. I mean, he said the electoral process is rigged. I mean, all you have to do is go back and look what he ran, when he first ran. 

 

But are you worried about the counting of votes?

Well, if you look at research, certainly there’s some of that going on. We can be babies and say it doesn’t happen; but certainly, if you look at Philadelphia, if you look at Chicago, if you look at St. Louis, if you look at Obama’s statements from eight years ago: Take a look at his statements, what he said about it. I saw it last night. It was, like, incredible; he was far more outgoing, as far as that’s concerned, than I am; but, overall, what I’m really concerned about is the system is rigged — whether it’s the media rigging the system, there are so many things wrong. Look: Hillary Clinton shouldn’t be allowed to run.  She lied. What she did with her emails, where she deleted 33,000 emails, she shouldn’t even be allowed to run for the presidency. She gets a subpoena from the United States Congress, and she deletes her emails. Now, James Cartwright, Gen. James Cartwright, may go to jail for five years because he lied to the FBI. She lied to the FBI probably hundreds of times, and she’s allowed to do it, but a four-star general is going to go to jail? She shouldn’t even be allowed to run for the office of president. 

 

You mentioned emails. These WikiLeak revelations have offended a lot of evangelicals and Catholics. 

Right. 

 

Now, these were members of Hillary Clinton’s staff, John Podesta, her communications director, and they said things like this. They suggested that they needed to plant seeds of rebellion in the Catholic Church to somehow change the teaching to accommodate their political agenda. 

Terrible. Sure. 

 

They said it was a backward, Middle Aged dictatorship. Now, that’s her staff. 

It’s her. 

 

Is she guilty of that? Should she apologize?

It’s her. It’s her. She should apologize. I think she has to do more than apologize. You know, that’s her thinking. That’s her staff. Frankly, if any Catholic votes for Hillary Clinton, you know, I would say, if I were a Catholic, I wouldn’t be talking to them anymore. She’s been terrible in what she said and her thoughts towards Catholics and to evangelicals. She was mocking evangelicals, also. So, you’d say, why would an evangelical or a Catholic — and almost, you could say, anybody of faith, but in particular, because they were mentioned, evangelicals and Catholics — why would they vote for Hillary Clinton? And how could they vote for Hillary Clinton? But that’s her speaking, believe me. 

 

Well, if it’s her staff. Do you think it reveals a mindset in the administration?

Well, it’s her staff, but I think it’s her.

 

Is that what you’re suggesting ... or in her campaign, rather?

Yeah, sure; I mean, this is the top person in her campaign. I think it reveals her, yes. 

 

I want to talk personally about you. When you pray, what do you pray for?

I, I don’t want to talk to you about that. I mean, I pray. It’s very personal to me. I’m a person of belief, but I certainly, you know, I pray for my family. I pray for our country, but I don’t want to talk to you about that. I think that’s very personal. 

 

Okay, between you and God. 

It is between me and God, yes. 

 

You are Presbyterian, so I don’t want to drag you into other realms. Do you have a favorite saint?

Well, I think that if you look, Mother Teresa, who’s probably our newest, is great, and John Paul … Pope John Paul, I thought, was terrific. 

 

Why?

Because he had something special. He had a special something. There was a warmth. There was a toughness, but there was a warmth that was incredible. So, I certainly think, Pope John Paul. 

 

No candidate since the advent of polling has come back this late in a race from a five-point national deficit. How do you turn it around in these last days?

Well, No. 1, I don’t believe there’s a five-point deficit. 

 

You don’t?

It was done by CNN. And it was, you know, heavily skewed toward Democrats. I don’t believe there’s a five-point deficit; and if you look at the polling booths in Florida right now, if you look at where they’re voting, the voting booths, I think you’re going to see record crowds. That’s what you’re seeing. It’s only two days, but that’s what you’re seeing. And, I think, we’re going to do really well. 

 

Hmm. You have said this is a movement. You’re the leader of a movement, whether you win or lose. What are the issues that this party, the GOP, will have to contend with as part of that movement?

There are many issues. The biggest issue right now is the judges, Supreme Court judges, but Obamacare is a massive issue. The Republicans have to get rid of it. They’ve been unsuccessful in doing it. I will get rid of it. And I’ll replace it with something much better and much less expensive for the people. Jobs have to stop leaving our country. Our military has to be rebuilt, and we need, you know, it’s been very depleted. The military has to be rebuilt. We have to take care of our vets. We have to protect our Second Amendment, which is under siege. And we have to have strong borders. Right now, people are pouring into our country. Drugs are pouring into our country. We have to stop the people and the drugs. 

 

Now, Hillary Clinton says we need [to let] more of these Syrian refugees in: “These people are suffering abroad. They need to come home. And we have … we need … they need to come here. And we as a country should be open to them.” You would say what?

I would say: She’s crazy. I would say that it’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. We have no idea. We’re not vetting them properly. We have no idea — are they ISIS? Are they not ISIS? Where are they coming from? Who they are? We’re taking them in by the tens of thousands right now, and Hillary Clinton wants to upgrade that by 550%. I would say to you it’s crazy to be doing this, and I will stop it immediately. We will not have radical Islamic terrorists coming into our country, and some of them will be radical Islamic terrorists. 

 

Okay, my final question: It is perhaps the most portentous. We’ve been seeing on social media, we’ve been seeing it in The New York Times, in USA Today — are you saying “bigly” or “big league”? And my guess is within. So there’s money riding on this.

Well ...

 

“Bigly” or “big league?”

Now, let me ask you: Are you talking about for me?

 

When you’re speaking on the podium, and you say, “This is … ?”

I, I use, “big league.” 

 

I was right! 

Good. Okay, good. 

 

“Big league,” you’ve settled it. 

Okay. Thank you.

 

Thank you.

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By Carol Glatz

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- His toes curl in pain, his veins bulge from exertion, his bony chest heaves in the last throes of death.

The newly restored 14th-century wooden crucified Christ "has been resurrected" from obscurity -- once caked over with dark paint and left forgotten behind an elevator shaft, said Cardinal Angelo Comastri, archpriest of St. Peter's Basilica.

"We have discovered a hidden treasure under the dust of many centuries," he told reporters at a Vatican news conference Oct. 28.

The oldest crucifix in the basilica's possession, it was made by an unknown sculptor of "exceptional artistic talent" and technical skill sometime in the early 1300s, and hung in the original fourth-century basilica of St. Peter, built by the Emperor Constantine, said Bishop Vittorio Lanzani, secretary of the Fabbrica di San Pietro, the office responsible for physical care and maintenance of St. Peter's Basilica.

The 7-foot-long torso and legs were made in one piece from a solid trunk of seasoned walnut, he said. The arms -- spanning nearly 6 and a half feet -- and head were carved separately but came from the same already centuries' old tree.

Antique prints and a rich trail of archival material track the crucifix's condition and its various locations inside the old basilica and its transfer to the new basilica when it was completed in 1620. The documents show that no matter where it was positioned, it was a popular and much-venerated piece of work, the bishop said.

It even managed to survive the Sack of Rome in 1527 and desecration when the basilica was turned into a "horse stable" and the Christ figure was dressed in the uniform of the invading mercenaries, he said.

Though made of strong solid wood, he said, termites feasting on it for 700 years caused considerable damage, leaving bore holes peppering the face and body and excavating large areas by the armpits.

Early restorers filled the gaping holes with wads of cloth, reinforced weakened areas with canvas wrappings and stucco, and hid dirt, discoloration and black termite burrows with dark "bronze-colored" paint, the bishop said.

Moved in 1749 to make way for Michelangelo's marble masterpiece, the Pieta, the progressively darkening statue was gradually moved further and further away from the main area of the basilica, eventually ending up in closed chapel.

Even worse, Bishop Lanzani said, Pope Pius XI had an elevator put in the closed chapel to connect the basilica with the papal residence above in the apostolic palace.

"Darkened and confined in a neglected spot and nearly unreachable, it was forgotten by many and was in some way taken away from the devotion of the faithful," he said.

When Pope Francis called the Year of Mercy, the basilica accelerated plans to have the crucifix studied and restored, which took 15 months of difficult and delicate work, Cardinal Comastri said. Because moving it too far from where it had been abandoned was too risky, the canon's sacristy nearby was turned into a makeshift restoration studio.

With funding from the Knights of Columbus, restorers used thermal lasers to blast off one layer of paint at a time and "cutting-edge" solvents that dissolve specific substances like oils, lacquers and grime, leaving desired colors unaltered, said one of the lead restorers, Lorenza D'Alessandro.

Experts monitored their progress with stereo microscopes -- which are often used in microsurgery -- to make sure they removed only selected areas and layers. She said they identified nine successive layers of paints, varnishes and protective coatings on the body and 15 layers on the white, gold-bordered loincloth.

They filled the gaps, she said, by mixing the sawdust left behind by the termites with a binding material that was then shaped to the body. They replaced a thick painted rope that had been wrapped around Christ's head with a crown of real thorn branches from a species known as Christ's Thorn found near the Mediterranean.

The original cross the Christ had been nailed to was lost long ago, she said, so workers at the Fabbrica crafted a new one from seasoned walnut wood that had grown near an ancient Marian sanctuary in central Italy.

Cardinal Comastri said the newly restored crucifix will be shown to the public for the first time Nov. 6 during Pope Francis' jubilee for prisoners to be "a beautiful sign of hope and a message of mercy."

It will then be placed back in the main part of the basilica in the Chapel of the Blessed Sacrament and dedicated in "perpetual memory of the Jubilee of Mercy."

It will be hung on the wall to the left of the entrance, so when people enter, they will immediately be met by Christ's gaze at the very moment he readies himself to give his life for all of humanity, he said.

The Knights provided the funding for its restoration to show "solidarity with the Holy Father" for the Year of Mercy, said Carl A. Anderson, supreme knight of the Knights of Columbus.

In a written statement, he said, "We hope that this remarkable image of Christ's suffering will serve as a reminder to all who see it of the great love our savior has for each of us, and of the depths of his mercy, always ready to embrace and forgive us."

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By Rhina Guidos

WASHINGTON (CNS) -- There is only one word to describe the images coming out of Syria as the conflict advances: apocalyptic.

Aleppo, once Syria's largest city and once known as its jewel, sits in rubble, but more tragically so do its people.

"The cradle of civilizations and the birthplace of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, the Middle East has become the theater of incredible brutality," said Archbishop Bernardito Auza, the Vatican's permanent observer to the United Nations in addressing the U.N. Security Council Oct. 19 about the deterioration of the situation. "The corpses under the ruins and the wandering refugees are a clear witness to this cynical contempt and trampling of international humanitarian law."

U.N. Special Envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura said to a group of European Union foreign ministers in Luxembourg on Oct. 17 said that "between now and December, if we cannot find a solution, Aleppo will not be there anymore."

Images of children physically hurt or killed in the conflict have gone viral, prompting pleas this fall from Pope Francis, who said in an Oct. 12 general audience that he is "begging, with all my strength" for an immediate cease-fire that would allow the "evacuation of civilians, especially children, who are still trapped under cruel bombardment."

Almost everyone agrees that something has to be done. Some worry that the repercussions of using force would only shift the violence toward other minority religious groups. Russia and the United States, two external players in the conflict -- one supporting Syrian President Bashar Assad, the other mildly supporting the rebels -- keep accusing each other of violating cease-fire agreements. Meanwhile, the nation's leader keeps crushing those who want to see him gone, regardless of how it hurts innocent civilians caught in the middle.

Since the beginning of the conflict in 2011, Washington has been focused on an option that does not include military force even though President Barack Obama in 2013 said: "We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus. That would change my equation."

Yet when the Assad regime was suspected of crossing that "red line," not just once but twice, Washington was reluctant to use force. Secretary of State John Kerry has not-so-secretly expressed frustration with a policy that is not backed with any serious threat behind it. The U.S. has favored hammering out a political solution instead.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Vatican have been urging an immediate cease-fire to allow humanitarian access to help civilians trapped in the conflict and called for the beginning of talks that would yield "inclusive governance," meaning a new Syrian government that could represent the religious plurality of the country and include Christians, Sunni and Alawites, the religious minority that has supported the Assad regime, in the nation's future governance, said Stephen M. Colecchi, director of the Office of International Justice and Peace at the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington.

"There is no military solution to the problem in Syria," Colecchi told Catholic News Service. "The only ultimate solution has to be a political one."

"I think that if the Alawites and Sunni and the Christians within Syria, if they all felt that their interests would be protected in a future Syrian government, they would be able to reach an agreement," added Colecchi, who focuses on the Middle East for the USCCB. "Part of what's pulling Syria apart are the external players that are fueling the conflict ... and Syrians have paid the price of that."

The United States, along with Russia, is one of those players, and with an election looming in November -- and one that could yield a new political equation in Congress -- it's unclear what changes U.S. policy toward Syria will see, if any, under a new administration.

"I think the Christian community in Syria is profoundly afraid of a violent transfer of power in Syria, which then could lead to a further breakdown of a rule of law which then could be exploited by extremists," Colecchi said. "I think they desperately want to see stability and a political solution."

For its part, the Catholic Church, Colecchi said, via agencies such as Catholic Relief Services, Caritas and many others, has been busy providing humanitarian help, not just in Syria, but also to its refugees fleeing to neighboring countries.

On its website, CRS says that the conflict has seen the death of many as 400,000 Syrians since 2011, and has uprooted more than 11 million. Carolyn Y. Woo, the agency's CEO, said aid workers have provided food, supplies, shelter and medical support for those who remain in areas of conflict, even as the workers themselves have become targets.

"Our staff are now in situations where the average level or risk is much higher than what it was before," said Woo. "My colleagues are my heroes because they're the ones who raise their hands to be in these type of situations."

The Holy Land Franciscans in October released a video about their work in Syria, calling attention to the nation's importance for Christianity: "Syria is the cradle of civilizations and Christianity after Jerusalem. Damascus is the place where St. Paul converted" to Christianity, they said in literature about the video, adding that the church had flourished there for decades. Christians once had made up about 30 percent of the population, while today it's about 10 percent and dwindling because of the conflict. The Holy Land Franciscans said the "the friars will be there until the last Christian."

Colecchi said Catholics should care about what's happening in Syria because "they're our brothers and sisters. And not just the large Christian community that lives in Syria, an ancient Christian community dating all the way back to St. Paul, but also because Syria is a rich culture and there are men women and children caught up in this horrific situation. We should care because there are people there who need our help."

One also has to consider, Colecchi said, the pressure put on other nations to accommodate the refugees the conflict has yielded and who are flooding into Europe, but also into Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey.

"This is not just about Syria, this is about stability in the region and in the world," he said.

And Americans, who often voice concerns about terrorism, should care, he said, because situations of desperation such as the one taking place in Syria give rise to extremism.

"In the long run, it's not good for world security and it's not good for U.S. security, so there's a self-interest," he said. "If we want stability in our world, we need to see a solution to this situation."

The pope, he added, may have been saying something when he recently designated Archbishop Mario Zenari, the apostolic nuncio in Damascus, a cardinal.

"I think it was a way of sending a signal, saying he was acknowledging the tremendous courage of this papal nuncio who remained within Syria at great risk to himself but also it's a way of saying the church cares about the Alawites and the Sunnis and the Christians and others within Syria," Colecchi said. "In a very direct way, that's a symbol of a universal church that's concerned for the welfare of Syria."

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